Jorginho, the first world-class Brazilian to form Bayern. His life’s journey, from a favela in Rio de Janeiro to World Cup glory, proves that football is more than just a game. Shortly before his 60th birthday, he told the partner magazine “51” how Germany and Franz Beckenbauer marked him forever.
Jorginho, many Bayern fans still remember how he celebrated a goal in May 1994 in memory of the recently deceased Formula 1 world champion, Ayrton Senna. Was it spontaneous? Jorginho: “Senna’s death moved me a lot. He was a wonderful idol for us Brazilians. But of course, I didn’t expect to score a goal in that game against Schalke. I was more of a provider. I crossed more than I scored. But then a blocked shot by Bruno Labbadia fell right at my feet. I didn’t think twice. I shot directly with my weaker left foot. It was wonderful. The ball went straight to the corner. Without delay I had an idea of Ayrton Senna and celebrated him in his honor.
What photographs do you have in your head when you think of Bayern? “The first thing I think of is Franz Beckenbauer. He was my coach only for the moment during the 1993/94 season, but it was an unforgettable period. Everything replaced absolutely with him. Suddenly the atmosphere in the locker room became much calmer and we were just playing football. When I think back on my two and a half years at Bayern, I especially think of the six months I spent with Beckenbauer.
His time at Bayern ended almost 30 years ago. What link do you have with Munich today? Last year I spent two weeks with my spouse in Munich. The connection is still there, especially thanks to the Stars4Kids foundation, which I co-founded. Bayern and many other German clubs fully support our work. I say that Germany is my time at home.
Do you still have leather pants at your house in Rio de Janeiro? (laughs) “No, I still have a picture of myself in leather pants. It’s also a wonderful memory. It was very early on, but then I felt very comfortable in leather pants. Panties.
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You still speak German very well. ” For me, learning German is essential. Also to get to know the culture. I learned a lot in Germany, especially because I was not only with my teammates, but also with a lot of “normal” people. In their house I learned how they live, what they think, what they eat. It has enriched my life a lot. I find it impressive how the Germans rebuilt their country after the war. This mentality is also reflected in football. We played Brazil against Germany in 1993. We were leading 3-0 at half-time and ended up drawing 3-3. It is Germany.
You grew up in complicated cases in Rio de Janeiro. Have you ever marveled at what football has done in your life? “I owe football everything I am today. I have been very lucky as a player and as a coach. But football showed me that winning rarely means everything. As a coach, it is vital for me to give my players something beyond the field, for life. Like Beckenbauer did with me. Sometimes he would just hug you and ask, “What do you think?” What do you need? » Behind every player there is a user: I learned that from Beckenbauer. He left his mark on my life. Unfortunately I was not able to stop there before his death. Only Franz can be simply tough.
Like when?” Before this he conceded, for example, against Schalke. He was angry with me because a few days earlier I had gone to Brazil for a suit abroad. I came back on Friday night absolutely tired and on Saturday he put me on the bench. He only substituted me because Dieter Frey was injured after 20 minutes and I scored the most productive goal of my career.
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What would have happened without football? My father died when I was 10 years old, one of my brothers was an alcoholic, another was a drug addict. I also did a lot of things in my youth that weren’t right. For example, I started smoking at 15 and gave up at 17. I don’t forget that on the Tuesday after Carnival I told my then-friend and now my spouse that I would never touch a cigarette again because I wanted to be a footballer. Later, as a player, I was one of the most productive in terms of fitness. Only at Bayern, sometimes it was also too much for me. “
Why? Erich Ribbeck made us run at all times the day after the game, one kilometre in five minutes. I said, “Coach, I can’t run that fast. I ran a lot and I’m absolutely exhausted. But that didn’t help. ” It was difficult at the time. But football taught me discipline and also diligence, the fact that I have to respect others, that you can’t just win, that you have to keep going even after a defeat. That is precisely what we are looking to teach children and young people from my base in Rio de Janeiro. “
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Your base runs an educational center in Guadeloupe, the community where you grew up. “It’s called ‘Bola pra frente’, in English it means ‘forward with the ball’. This is what we say in Brazil, it means: “Look forward and keep going!”We care for 500 young people from 6 to 17 years old and they participate in other classes. And those who can’t find a task can continue their studies with us. We don’t lose anyone for a long time to drugs or crime. I myself lost many friends when I was very young, so it is a task that is very close to my heart.
They play football too, right?” Of course. But football for us is a means of education, not a business. We are not players’ agents. We need to amplify people, not footballers.
You will turn 60 in mid-August. How do you see the future?”I don’t see myself retired for a long time yet. I need to keep running as a coach. The last time I was in Buriram in Thailand and I won the championship there. I’m in good shape and I still dream of one day setting up a coach in Germany, for example.
You can read the extended interview in the last part of the members’ magazine “51”
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