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After thinking about it, I can only assume that those three are Alisson, VVD and Mane. It’s just that United wants to improve, Liverpool also have to be much weaker.
Liverpool’s defence was very good, but even as a unit, it was only higher than last season from United. 33 goals versus 36 Premier League goals don’t speak of a huge chasm in elegance there, no matter how one of them compares. its individual components I would say that no matter how much I think Van Dijk is bigger than Maguire individually, if the overall difference between defenses is only 3 objectives, I agree, however, that: Van Dijk is greater than Maguire, Robertson than Shaw and Gomez than Lindelof, but for me Wan Bissaka is the most productive defender because he is better at defense; it’s a non-public preference if you prefer to attack back, so that’s good.
This philosophy of team mastery can be most noticeable in Mark’s midfield research because of the way he does in comparison departments, not individuals. The united midfielders would probably win the comparisons, so Mark combined them. If you go in that direction, then closer to the fact would be: Pogba Henderson, Van De Beek Keita, Fernandes Wijnaldum, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Shaqiri (he is not a central midfielder at all!) Or whoever Curtis Jones is. , but to this day he is still at Bayern.
Obviously, Mane and Salah have been better off as Americans than Rashford and Greenwood in the past, but if you just need to regroup your midfield and say it’s better, I’ll do the same with our attack, which overcatched Liverpool’s last season. If you’re going to play the singles game, Firmino is a lousy striker because, and I shouldn’t say it, he doesn’t set purposes. 9 purposes in 34 PL matches are average figures for the league champions’ great striker. And yes, I know he’s a key detail in the way Liverpool plays, yet Mark has tried to tell us how much better Liverpool was at first, so that doesn’t stop. When it comes to Americans, Martial is the most productive striker; 17 purposes in 32 PL games (or one purpose every 155 minutes, compared to 333 minutes for Firmino) speak for themselves.
So whether you’re looking for a player opposed to another or a branch opposite another branch, it doesn’t really matter because Liverpool is clearly ahead, but you can’t decide on a combination of the two methodologies to turn it into a very short-sighted 11. -0. Es true that as a team, Liverpool is bigger than United, and Liverpool has more Americans than United, however, this comparison (anyway) is much closer than Mark would have you (I’m 6-5, 7-4 at worst, in Liverpool over the Americans in an 11). In addition, United are still in the process of forming next season’s team, while the Liverpool team is very well established and with little movement activity planned this summer, so it is still early to make primary comparisons.
I’m a little behind on the total debate about ‘who’s the most despicable of Liverpool or Man United’s fans’, so I’ve lived here no matter much, I’m a Liverpool fan from start to finish and I’ve been a fan for up to 30 years and, honestly, I don’t know why I didn’t even start supporting them in the top position : cough, glory hunter, cough, plastic fan, cough.
For us in Southern Africa, football is mostly entertainment, so all this communicating about hate to other enthusiasts is ridiculous. Of course, we exchange jokes (real jokes and hateful gags) watching live football from bars, etc. At the end of the day, we congratulate the winners and continue our lives and wait patiently to laugh at our rivals the next time they lose to a team from the center of the table/basement.
I have noticed the same thing with PLA enthusiasts in most of South Africa, with the largest fan teams coming from the two clubs mentioned above, adding Chelsea and Arsenal, and there have been sudden increases from some Manchester City enthusiasts (I wonder why).
That’s a pretty long way of saying you agree with John Nicholson, right?
To claim that football and politics are mutually exclusive is simply incorrect. Football and politics have gone hand in hand, there are literally too many examples to list. This is the game of other people and recommend that one deserves never to enter the political. sphere shows a lack of conscience, in my humble opinion.
This turns out to be an example of what turns out to be a very 2020 factor: “I don’t agree with what you’re saying, so I’ll just question your right to say it. “Depressing.
Marcus Rashford and the many young men he helped wouldn’t agree with you. Obviously, it’s a political crusade, but a crusade that many other people would find difficult to oppose. What’s the difference?
Dear Ed,
Just a quick note to tell him that I suspect he will get some answers from William, Leicester, possibly discussing his claim that football and politics are separated. I have no doubt that many other people will say that politics affects football and therefore deserves to be discussed on this site through other people like JN. However, I don’t think the answers will pick up the point. The policy affects everything one way or another, so you can safely say that policy reviews can be formulated on any industry or business, or on anyone. What matters here is what F365 should be and what it should offer. William is surely right about the divisive nature of rhetoric right now, with Brexit, Cornovirus, BLM, racism in general, hatred of conservatives, so do some elements of the Labour Party if he so desires.
If you care too much about all this, I am convinced that it will harm your intellectual health, the other people in the forum are a wonderful example of that and I am pleased to be away from that now. escape, a possibility to and disconnect from the problems of the world. Don’t put your head in the sand, don’t forget racism or sexism, it’s time not to think about it, and this online page of recent years was surely however, it fits more and more politicized and fits more and more on a note, there are not many nuances. Your defense of Raheem Sterling was a smart example, and you settled for him. that his constant compliment to him was born of understandable frustration with his treatment.
So, my question is: what do you need the online page to be?Entertainment or a combination of entertainment and political/social commentary. There is no right or answer, however, it determines the number of other people who need to stop at it. I just need football, or most football. I don’t need politics, and I think you’ve gone too far in that. I completely agree with William on that.
Dear William,
His claim that football and politics do not mix and therefore never mix is sisyphal, in the sense that it is an impossibility. Politics is, for the intelligent or the sick, an inevitable component of human life. workplace to society’s largest government policy, humans are rooted in it, shaped through it and, unfortunately for you, surrounded by it. Football, and gambling in general, have never been apolitical, however, at this point in our history, politics is a debatable factor, or rather, most of the uproes are seen from a “left-right” political point of view. Along with the expansion of social media and the Internet, it is generally to feel overwhelmed, but foolish to think that it can, and therefore should, be removed from football.
Having read this site for about 3 years, I’m not very familiar with some of the articles you discussed in your previous post on this topic. However, since my time here at least, John has written articles defying the concept of the prestige quo of football governance, never ignoring football altogether. It’s written about football’s biggest game as a whole. Since this poses out-of-field consultation problems, it is natural for it to take a more political view and also include some political views. The explanation for why for the latter is that government policy would flagrantly interfere with the bureaucratic aspect of football, as it is still a component of society and therefore deserves not only to comply with the regulations of society, but will also be affected by adjustments such as Brexit. Such a vital political decision, for example, would have enormous effects on the industry in general and the other people who paint there. That, my friend, is an added football and politics. To forget it is simply to forget about the elephant in the room.
The concept that other people push politics toward sport, or that you’ve been shoved down your throat in another entertainment bureaucracy, such as television, movies, comics, etc. , is ridiculous, because it implies that she has never been absent at all. The non-sporting entertainment bureaucracy you talked about is sometimes considered an art form. Politics and art have been connected and hopefully they will be. As for sport, once again, it is also anything that has been related to politics, although the “final product” (i. e. what happens on the field) rarely shows it. The selection of venues for the World Cups is a political decision, stadium planning is a political decision, players getting visa authorization to register for the club is a political decision, the acquisition of a football club through the United Arab Emirates is even a political decision. Again, politics is similar to how football works as you know it.
I’m sure I’ll get some answers in WIlliam, Leicester, but I was looking to offer a choice view for his. TL; DR – William, I couldn’t disagree anymore.
Some British readers may not forget an old animated TV commercial from the 1990s about boys in a pub where a boy constantly said ‘sorry, I don’t do politics’. The angle of this is that everything in life, in some way, has A political connection or involvement Politics is a broader term than the vote red or blue (or yellow or green) Morality, cultural relevance, equality and more overlap with political discourse and sports, and to say that politics has no place in football and that we don’t combine the two is completely idiotic.
If F365 were to constantly push you into political opinion in each article, you might consider that your opinion is a little more valid, but that is not the case. JN articles, while dividing opinion, are a refreshing voice in a global vanilla medium and go against right-wing newspapers that push destructive systems to benefit or control.
Yes, football is an entertainment industry, however, there are times when political and social disorders succeed in a nadir and voices in the game will have to raise their heads above the parapet and use their platform to change. , list of times when play and politics have been mixed, probably for the better:
It’s right next to my head. So, please, William, never say that politics and play don’t mix. As one of the world’s largest industries, athletes, enthusiasts and clubs have the same right to have the same right to think as you, and if other people need to use their platform to influence change, why don’t you see it as smart?And it’s just a game?If that’s the case, we wouldn’t have noticed #metoo or Oscarssowhite. What about the music industry? Without those voices in football, there’s more game laundering, more FIFA corruption, no more World Cups in Qatar, no one needs that.
Uh. . . William, Leicester, avoid ruining my football-related mailbox with your apolitical dogma!
Don’t read John Nicholson’s articles. . . I have no tendency to (sorry John) It is not so difficult, why the hell would you write a treatise on that . . .
F365 is not the BBC, they are allowed to take any editorial position on any subject they want. I suspect they’re taking the technique they’re taking because their illuminated position is a delicate chord to the demographics they’re looking for.
If you don’t need to think (a little . . . ) when you get your football content, read the website.
I enjoyed the impressive evaluation of Mark Robbo, man by man, United and Liverpool teams. Well, man for man when it suited him, when United obviously had the most productive midfielders, we grouped them all together because Curtis Jones gives more balance. . you know, this guy whose time has scored 122 minutes throughout his career: Paul Pogba will have to feel like a loser with only one World Cup and four Serie A victories. Not to mention Firminho is Anthony Martial’s objectively impressive striker. Figures because Mark, the Liverpool fan, likes it more. . .
Liver Bird can beat Fred the Red in a fight, too, I guess.
In reaction to William, Leicester in this morning’s mailbox, politics permeates every moment and every aspect of life. Whether you’re watching football, walking the dog or buying a chocolate bar, everything we do is governed by politics and politics.
What you’re saying is that John Nicholson doesn’t highlight how football and politics are inexorably linked, let alone definitely positions himself on what he thinks football (as a component of society at large in which it exists) wants to improve. We see football as an escape and that “reality” cannot interfere, but that does not replace the fact that politics is a component of each and every match, discussion and football article.
So I have some disorders with William, leicester’s mail this morning . . . I’m going to leave my brief and kind comments.
– “Most politicians who push politics in football are not amateurs, do not form groups or watch matches, they just need their politics in some other position so as not to belong to them and do not care about the negative consequences that this entails for other people who really love football . . . ‘- As I said in my first email, you actually have to avoid speaking on behalf of others, I’m embarrassed.
– ” No one supports a specific club because of its policy, no one chooses a player who likes it because it shares the same political views, clubs do not receive any more problems or aim to publicize their policy and the Ballon d’Or makes a decision on performance. not political opinions too. “The fact is that the game as a whole is political.
In the end, footballers, clubs and the game itself are politicians. In the most recent one you can think of Marcus Rashford, James McLean, Megan Rapinoe, Hector Bellerin, Pep Guardiola, the resolve to grant the to Qatar, George Weah, etc. In some cases, footballers, managers or homeowners express political opinions of other parties, they worry about social campaigns that have a kind of political angle.
William, if you only care what happens in the area in the 90-120 minutes (ignoring crowds, stadiums, players, etc. ), then yes, there is no politics in football.
However, as you move away from the “kick of the person,” political problems get involved. This includes race, employment, sexism, equality, building permits, drug policies and everything else.
“Racism is not political,” did I read it right? So how are other people from other races, religions and countries not political?I can’t. I’ve read this and I don’t think I’ve read much. in my life. Even the regulations that state that racist abuse cannot be dedicated IS POLITICAL – DO THEY MAKE a decision through genuine politicians, not through Bob in the pub?!?!!
I challenge you to go into Liverpool and tell Liverpool fans that politics doesn’t care about football, in Catalonia, in Glasgow, or in Turin, or anywhere where there’s a football club, whether in the most sensible tree or on bass. -10 in Romford who are struggling to keep their fields available.
Even regulations are political. Tous. De up and down. FFP with foul shots.
You don’t have to read other people’s reviews on this, that’s fine. No, but don’t you dare speak for all the F365 readers. And don’t you dare consult to silence other people, because you know what it is?
“Nobody comes to this place to read articles about politics, so if it’s not there, nobody cares. “If that were true, I guess Johnny wouldn’t get a chance to write for F365. For my part, I’m glad you’re doing it. This is what happens to sites that are managed through ad revenue, without audience, without content. Therefore, if something is read through many other people, it will continue. If no one is interested, they will not click and eventually stop. What I don’t perceive in other people like you, William, is that you temporarily tell other people what you need them to do (or don’t), but why don’t you take a pen and create your own page online and then get exactly what you need?
Cried.
Just to answer William in Leicester’s complaint about F365’s publication of Johnny Nic’s political articles (I hope I’m not the only one) I see a lot of arguments like William’s in places that deal with spaces that are occasionally considered apolitical, like football or I’m a little, is it so hard not to read the offensive article?I hadn’t heard that the presence of an editor watching football through a political lens had made the rest of the site’s politics disappear.
Seriously, F365 has many wonderful writers who write about all facets of football. That’s what makes it a football for everyone, ignoring absolutely nothing that represents a very giant component of the sporting landscape, because it could make other people uncomfortable, as William suggests. .
You don’t have to like Johnny Nic’s articles, that’s fine, you don’t even want to read them (I love Johnny but I don’t read them all!), but instead of pretending that his presence even on the site is shaking up politics. in our throats, shows initiative and reads one of the many articles about “appropriate” football!I know it’s hard and not so much to laugh at as putting on your Richard Keys dress and jumping on your horse, however, it will be better for your long-term blood pressure.
I haven’t been in place for a while (very upset about today’s paintings) and I just read William’s mail, Leicester, so it used to be a normal comeback in the early days, even before Jack (17) I was 17, and I used to enjoy John Nicholson’s ramblings and painfully squeeze an analogy from the band on tour in the existing story of the day. Your site has become the football site for me and I didn’t have a genuine concept of the politics of any of you, and I didn’t care. Besides, that’s it, unfortunately quite predictable, what your point of view will be above all. As the saying goes, Go Woke, Go exploded.
In William, Leicester
“He gets up and claps”
Wonderfully put, sir,
I agree with William, Leicester, there’s a “but” in the end.
I’m a 55-year-old white boy. I’m fine, I vote conservative and I voted to leave. I feel like I’m just what you despise young hipsters. Constant references become boring.
But. . . you’re loose (I think other people do that) and you’re wonderful.
I’d probably be much closer to fat man Scouse’s life overview than johnny Nic, but I’m very close to Johnny’s vision of football and music, and I like the way he writes. He’s like that cool hippie, smoking together, dressed in jeans on the old posters.
And as I grew and distinguished myself, I was able to expand this vital skill to simply forget everything I don’t like and move on. It’s like skipping Four Sticks knowing that Led Zep IV is a wonderful album.
This brought me an idea I had some time ago when a trend on social media surrounding the path you chose as a player, the query ‘You play for 7 clubs: a progression club, a big hit at 21, another at 24. Fix in 27, then three, down to 30. What’s your career?”
As an Arsenal fan, I’m notoriously biased, but I don’t think I ever realized that a Premier League player makes football as simple as Henry. He simply slid everywhere, leaving other people in his wake.
Shearer was exceptional and persistent, and also electrifying earlier in his career, and Aguero is a luxurious finisher, I think Henry is above them as the biggest ahead of the league.
And I can see him score his last goal, opposite Sunderland in 2012, and the Sunderland enthusiasts he was sitting on (having been able to make money on a price ticket for the second game) were very guys when I got carried away. and revealed myself (figuratively rather than literally) despite the fact that I’m an extra time winner.
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