“You have to explain anything about those values. I didn’t understand it. ” The reactions of Botafogo fans and followers to the move to OL Lucas Perri and Adryelson show how surprising the costs have been in Brazil. Announced at 20 million euros, the agreement between the two players, despite everything, amounts to “only” 3. 25 and 3. 58 million euros, that is, 6. 83 million euros in total. To this sum we must add 50% participation in the profits of a possible long-term resale. .
This is very far from the amounts mentioned. As always, John Textor, director of Brazilian and French bands, chose the X platform (formerly Twitter) to justify the price. “When the move is between two controlled clubs, we estimate the fair price on Transfermarkt and adjust the characteristics of the transaction. In this case it is only a 50% purchase,” he responded.
Actuellement, Perri est valorisé par le site spécialisé à 8 millions d’euros, tout comme son coéquipier Adryelson. Ce qui n’est donc pas encore à la hauteur des 50% annoncés. Avec tout de même un bon pourcentage à la revente, Botafogo doit espérer que le gardien et le défenseur performeront dans le Rhône.
We remind you that the two players have a contract with Olympique Lyonnais until 2028. They are the first additions of the winter for Décines.
This 50%, on resale, is a way to circumvent France’s ban on timeshares, as long as the price of the players drops before a long-term transfer. . . If it ever comes true! A bet of rates for the promoter club.
Am I the only one who finds it crazy to use a third-party site that sets the cost of players in a more or less opaque way as a criterion to justify the value of a transfer?In any case, from Botafogo’s point of view, I think I’d be a little disappointed if they served me this argument (if it turns out that the quantity is so low for them given the quality of the players?).
But I don’t despise TM, it’s a wonderful tool, and every day they are more wonderful. For example, in terms of our efficiency, I have the impression that they have been adjusted, all the prices seem moderate to me. In the past, there were oddities (such as Aouar trading at $30 million when it was at its worst). And then there are rumors of agents insisting on increasing the price of their player!
Article intéressant sur le sujet: https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/football/football-comment-le-site-transfermarkt-calcule-t-il-la-valeur-marchande-des-joueurs-9a30c30c-c736-11ed-97ad-1a193e48a1bd#:~:text=Transfermarkt%20se%20base%20d’abord,en%20a%20marqu%C3%A9%20que%20cinq.
Just a note. . . Reading the comments on Botafogo fan sites (thanks Google Trad), we see that many perceive the technique perfectly and remain completely Textor, recognizing that without him the club would probably be in the Brazilian 2nd division lately. .
Yes, old John Textor’s criticisms come to a bitter end.
John a fait monter Botafogo et Moolenbeck signe d’une réussite incroyable.?
Today he’s comparing to Lyon, it’s more complicated but John is a winner.
Ils ont l’air moins bêtes qu’ici
Oui c’est sur.
Individually, yes, however, several media specialized in Botafogo have published articles criticizing this amount, which they describe as “pornographic”, and difficult to explain by Textor.
It is source and asks for the price of a transfer.
Textor does what he wants, he owns clubs.
Transfermark, I think overall the odds are right, I’m not surprised.
https://www. lyonfoot. com/article/4743/le-terminal-de-luxe-des-aulas-a-miami-realise-avec-un-montage-de-societes-offshore
Too strong, even Darmanin! ?
And Darmanin, JMA and Johnny are nothing to Patrick Drahi.
Laissez Johnny tranquille !!??
Pas de boogie woogie.?????
Je me souviens que les fans de botafogo n’étaient pas contents lors du départ de jeffinho. Et à Lyon on estime que 10ME c’est une arnaque. Heureusement on écoute pas les supporters
And in Milan they were content to “return” us to Paqueta. . .
On fait la transaction la plus basse possible et on transfère Jeffinho dans l’autre sens sous forme de prêt, c’est ce qui permet de réduire les coûts financiers et fiscaux, rien de plus à aller chercher
SH
OL have reportedly made an offer to Porto for left-footed centre-back David Carmo on loan with an option to buy. . . A lovely baby, on the other hand, turns out to take cards often, 7 games played and four yellows and a red. . . .
@Moncoua In any case, I don’t know what he did to you, but you don’t like him, John.
These other people are only there to let others know that Textor is not the one making the decisions. It was necessary to give paintings to these unemployed people so that they could take cash home.
You may have made the mistake of pressing “Reply” Thal, because I’m more of a Textor supporter than an “anti” one. I was joking.
Philippeb IS Vincent Ponsot, so in a way he’s. . . in the office.
C’est surtout que ton commentaire a été modifié le temps que j’écrive et poste la réponse ? Avant la modif tu disais un truc du genre “ils ne sont là que pour faire croire qu’il (Textor) ne prend plus de décisions” d’où ma réponse
@thal, only the fictional works that were kicked out of the textbook club. In spite of everything, we have other people who have a genuine experience and who are recognized.
So I’m turning it on now that it’s transparent to you.
@Toitoi bah le problème c’est qu’il y en a tellement qui tire sur Textor sans raison avec de la mauvaise foi et sans 2nd degré/auto-dérision/… même pour des choses qui ne sont pas de son fait qu’à la fin j’ai du mal XD
That there are things to complain about him, about his management, about Array. . . It’s a certainty, obviously he didn’t do everything right. But there is so much bad religion, or at least unwarranted complaints against it, that it becomes exasperating. And when, in the case of your comment, for example, the second degree is slightly perceptible from my point of view (maybe because I don’t know you well enough, it must be said). I have a tendency to draw softly to put the church back in. In the middle of the village ?I’m sorry ?
MLJ super scored before arriving. Bruno Cheyrou at PSG Women and he already had a reputation for taking things slowly, which he showed us by not locating anyone, by having lunar statements (HRD’s movement or movement is not trivial). MLJ’s recruit this summer is the one who has been on Nuamah’s record for a long time and who allows his recruitment. But with the Dncg it’s super limited. In the end with DCC and Amn we could realize that they were big moves with little money invested in them.
@Bamaki will have to say that MLJ or anyone else, when he has to make a total movement window to renew 3/4 of a team (or at least half) with barely a hundred balls and on March 1 with the aim of qualifying for the CE, is almost a project from the beginning
Of course, Ernest doesn’t convince me at all, he’s not much older for Duje, and Ainsley. . . What position do you play?
@Toitoi I’ll admit, Nuamah is still (too much?) messy and still desires it in his choices. But he hits a lot, brings danger through his percussion and/or his combinations with others and does not hesitate to make an effort. .
Il faut aussi qu’il améliore ses stats mais bon, je suis de ceux qui pense qu’on ne peut pas tout résumer aux stats ? Je préfère un ailier qui aide et fait marquer l’équipe quitte à avoir des stats dégueulasses qu’un ailier qui a de bonne stats mais qui du coup croque énormément pour les avoir ou nous force à avoir une certaine dépendance à ce joueur. Bon l’idéal c’est un ailier qui a de bonne stats et aide/fait marquer son équipe mais vu notre situation c’est trop cher et inaccessible. Peut être que ce sera le cas pour Nuamah, il est encore jeune après tout ?
It’s still too smart to get the big L1 teams to get it right, but the future is there. He just wants to work hard to stay ?
Mr. Toitoi. ?
Philoub toujours a traîner derrière les bureaux celui ci.
@Montcoua we never said there were no errors in the last move window. . . It’s a bit simple to highlight only the mistakes over and over again without taking into account the successes. No recruiting unit at this club or any other has had the best window of movement. There are mistakes. . .
I don’t know what you expect to happen yet, if it turns out that Ponsot/Cheyroux/JMA have made bigger hires then I can point out all their mistakes that have cost us infinitely more (sportingly and financially) than Akouokou. and Baldé combined. . . .
Et au delà de ça, autant Akouokou est vraiment une erreur, autant Baldé je ne suis pas sûr. Quand on voit ce qu’il a fait avec une équipe plus faible comme Troyes, il pourrait très bien faire le job en tant que remplaçant (mais pas clairement pas en tant que titulaire) pour peut qu’il retrouve la confiance. A l’instant T, au fond du trou, oui c’est un échec mais au long terme avec une confiance retrouvée je ne suis pas sûr
As long as you haven’t asked Ponsot and Cheyrou’s opinion, it’s fine.
Les aigris anti Textor sortent du bois,ils l’ont encore mauvaise que leurs dieux Aulas,Ponsot et Cheyrou aient été évincés de la sorte.?
accusation* ?
You? Ernesto, aren’t you convinced? This player is a beast, a fashionable full-back who combines a crazy body and technical quality even if it is necessary in his possible options and tactically (it’s normal). His percussion will be sorely missed.
Oh yes, I see the point of research because of the statistics. . .
At the beginning of the season you told everybody about Rayan, that we had to put him on 10 and everything. You temporarily replace your jacket.
Have we ever had a winger that combines so much power, endurance, speed and at the same time?I don’t think much.
On l’aime bien change veste.?